Dec. 29, 2021

421: THROWBACK: Foreign Policy Realism -with Pratik Chougule (January, 2020)

421: THROWBACK: Foreign Policy Realism -with Pratik Chougule (January, 2020)

We need to be realistic vs. idealistic when talking foreign policy.


Pratik Chougule believes we need to be realistic vs. idealistic when talking about foreign policy. This THROWBACK episode brings us to a world where the United States and Iran were facing growing tensions and some in the neocon world to start beating the war drums.


Original Show Notes:

With commentators proclaiming that World War III is just around the corner due to increasing tensions between the United States and Iran, the United States' foreign policy is at the forefront of the national conversation. With conservative pundits like Ben Shapiro singing the praises of President Trump's more hawkish approach to the increasing tensions with Iran (which Shapiro has seemingly toned down in recent days), I thought it would be a great opportunity to have a former self-described "neocon" who ended up becoming a "foreign policy realist" on the show to discuss their own personal growth and change of mindset.


Joining the show is Pratik Chougule. Chougule is a researcher at Boston College's Center for International Higher Education, where he is writing a book about American universities in the greater Middle East. He was previously an executive editor at The American Conservative and managing editor at The National Interest. During the 2016 election cycle, Chougule served as policy coordinator on the presidential campaigns of Donald Trump and Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee. From 2008-2009, Chougule was a George W. Bush appointee at the State Department in the Office of the Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security. Chougule graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Brown University and holds a JD from Yale Law School.


Listen as Chougule discusses his take on foreign policy, his critiques of the traditional neocon/hawkish foreign policy, the rising tensions of Iran, and finally his perspective of where the world stands after the 2020 election with regards to foreign relations and policy.


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