844: Colorado at a Crossroads - Is a Democratic Socialist Takeover Looming?

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Colorado is a Democratic stronghold. But could it be getting worse? Could Colorado be a Democratic socialist stronghold? Yeah, let's talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well, hey there, folks, Brian Nichols, here on The Brian Nichols Show. Thank you for joining us on of course, of the fun filled episode, I am as always your humble host joining you from our lovely audio miracle Studios here in eastern Indiana. The Brian Nichols Show is powered by our friends over at amp America, if you're looking for all the news that you need to know without the corporate media bias or fluff, head over to amp america.com get the news you need. Without that added bias plus, by the way, I read a few articles over there, and I think they're pretty darn good. So go ahead, check them all out and more at amp america.com. Also The Brian Nichols Show and yours truly powered by our studio sponsor, cardio miracle Now, folks, we're a year plus into the cardio miracle adventure here on The Brian Nichols Show. And if you've been a longtime listener, you've heard me tout this every single episode. If you're joining us for the first time today, well get ready because I am here to tell you that the cardio miracle difference is 100% real. Now what is cardio miracle. It's the best heart health supplement in the world powered by nitric oxide, it helps improve your blood pressure, it will help improve those restless nights of sleep plus, for yours truly, I've seen a benefit at the gym having more of a pump plus a slew of other amazing benefits. And here's the secret folks, you the amazing members of The Brian Nichols Show audience can jump on board with literally zero risk. How so? Well, first of all, if you use code TBNS at checkout by clicking the link here in the show notes or following the link in the video description, you're going to get 15% off your order. That sounds great. But don't worry, there's more because not only are you going to get 15% off your order, but you also have a 100% money back guarantee. So folks, you literally have nothing to lose. And if you've been listening to me and you're like okay, Brian, that sounds great. You know you're the host of the show. Don't take my word for it. Take the word of literally the hundreds of other folks here in The Brian Nichols Show. AUDIENCE That's right you guys right here in the audience who have already jumped on the cardio miracle bandwagon heck go reach out to the 10s of 1000s of folks out there who have already experienced cardio miracle difference for themselves I guarantee your heart will thank you one more time cardio miracle the best heart health supplement in the world use code T BNS for 15%. off your order. All right, folks. Well, there's your your heart medicine for today. But maybe the news and the teaser made your heart a little sad. And that was because if you live in the great state of Colorado, yeah, it's been a Democratic stronghold for a while. But what if it's actually getting worse? What if despite having the most libertarian governor in Jared Polis? Yes, the actual reality with boots on the ground in Colorado is that not just Democrats are taking over but democratic socialists are taking over and turning Colorado into a stronghold whatever can those color Robins Coloradans? Do I probably said that wrong and I'm going to be corrected by our guests. Joining us here on The Brian Nichols Show from Colorado, Joe de Blasio. Welcome to the program. How you doing?

Joe Dibiasio  4:14  
Great. How are you doing?

Brian Nichols  4:15  
doing quite well. We're recording here. peek behind the curtain on a Thursday after hours. I have family coming into town. It's a good it's a good day, my friend. But with that, thank you for joining us on the show looking forward to digging all into all things Colorado that is but Joe, before we start addressing the elephant in the room is Colorado turning into a Democratic socialist stronghold. Do us a favor, introduce yourself here to The Brian Nichols Show audience Why are you raising the alarm? And what the heck can Coloradans Coloradans do

Joe Dibiasio  4:49  
we'll call it Coloradans? Right? You know, it's simply you got to get out there and you just got to stand your ground. You know, democratic socialists of America are taken over the general Assembly and not by being elected in but through appointment. You know, if a Democrat decides to step down from the GA, they're just going to fill it with a DSA member. And these folks, you know, they slammed themselves in committees that they are just going after your rights every which way. You know. And, you know, the irony is if you're paying attention to the the news out here, you'll see that, you know, on the CU campus that a lot of the pro Palestinian supporters are out there voicing their concerns, and they were ushered off the campus for a little while because they were camping and there's camping bans on the campus is pretty funny, you know, they're like, this is this is an infringement of our First Amendment rights. You know, it's like, welcome to the club guys.

Brian Nichols  5:39  
And their family know how you feel only. Sorry, private property rights actually exist, but that might be a different conversation for a different day.

Joe Dibiasio  5:48  
Yeah, right. Right. Exactly.

Brian Nichols  5:49  
All right, Joe, so talk to us about these democratic socialists. Because here let's let's take a step back. I think what happens is, more often than not more folks on the win. We're just for the sake of the conversation. Today, we're going to lump Big L and small l libertarians in the same camp on the right, I'm sorry, I know some of you folks are going to have your hair burst into flames hearing that. But I think that's the general rule we can put into place. But when you look at the left, and I'm gonna again, use very loose phraseology here for the left, but we think of the Democratic Party, we think of progressives, we think of socialists. And I think when more people think of Democrats today, they associate Democrats with that socialist, progressive wing. And yet, when I think back to Democrats, because I'm an old man over here, Joe, I am old enough to remember when I would hang out with Democrats back when I was growing up, and they were pretty much normal people with normal politics, like, yeah, they maybe disagreed on tax rates, and, you know, some minut details versus the GOP or their friends on the right, it really was, what's the old term, I think it was a picture of the house, they're the same side of the or the two sides of the same coin, right. But where we are today, my humble opinion is that we've seen that that schism really grow that divide grow. So now, the average Democrat has become more of a socialist, which is definitely concerning. But let's look at the Democrats, those old school Democrats, and specifically Joe, let's look at it through the lens of Colorado in particular, because I'm sure that the socialist takeover of the Democratic Party itself hasn't necessarily been welcomed by some of those more traditional, dare we say, like the blue dog Democrats, you know, that the old, I want my labor union, and I want our affordable tax rate. And that was about it. versus you know, hey, we want hyper progressive, everything that's out there. So what's been the reaction from those old school dems? They're in Colorado?

Joe Dibiasio  7:52  
You know, I wish I could speak on behalf of them in my community. So I'm the vice president of a metro district out here in Aurora. You know, that's that that position right there. It's kind of interesting, because I get to speak with the community a lot. And we do have a lot of anti tax Democrats in this community. And we have a lot of like pro tax Republicans, it's, it's really it's kind of a very populist mix of mindsets. But if I were to speak on their behalf, I would assume that they're probably not exactly thrilled of the DSA takeover, because they do seem very moderate. A lot of them are, you know, they're pro gun or pro Second Amendment Democrats. I mean, it's that old blue dog Democrat mindset, you know, like, a lot of these guys used to work on farms, they used to work on ranches, and they, you know, they do believe in the Bill of Rights, they do believe in your, your individual freedoms. So I couldn't imagine that they're exactly happy about this takeover that's happening. And just to be clear, it's not it's not a huge takeover. But it's enough people who are DSA members who are who are kind of consolidating that they can get into these committees you know, and really just turn things upside down and everything's gonna have to go to it's gonna have to go to the courts is what it boils down to. Well,

Brian Nichols  9:04  
I was gonna say it's not a Democratic socialist takeover and stronghold yet and let me put the little the caveat there right because by the way this Okay a little bit of a rant this has been something I have been butting my head up against with big L libertarians and frankly, smaller libertarians for that matter of the well we can't react to something until it happens. So like, well, we shouldn't be pushing X policy because well, x hasn't happened yet. Okay, here I'll give you a real life example. Sorry audience if you get uncomfortable sorry, Joe, if this makes you uncomfortable, but like the whole drag queen story, our thing right, like I can sit there and be like, I don't think that's a good thing. And then Democrats are like, Oh, why? what's the worst that's happened? You're you're thinking about all these worst case things that could happen and I'm like, yes, yes, I am. I'm a dad. So I don't think that this is a good a good approach to dealing with these issues. But also, I think just pretending that this isn't an issue isn't a good idea either. And so we I think we as libertarians, we sometimes are allergic to solutions, unless the problems are slapping us across the face. So I say that because I look at Colorado and I was out to Colorado a couple of years ago, and I went to visit you guys in Denver. I had a good time. It was nice. But like it wasn't a socialist stronghold yet, and I don't want to see Denver or Colorado become a socialist stronghold. I got a lot of good buddies out in Colorado. So what what do you see Joe? Here's my question to you. Like, what do you see as a means to stop a potential takeover? You know, it hasn't officially happened yet. But if it's on its way, if we're starting to see the chinks in the armor, right, what what can Big L libertarians, small l libertarians, even those folks on the right in the GOP? What would you recommend from a prescription standpoint to not just deal with the symptoms of this, but actually deal with the underlying causes?

Joe Dibiasio  11:06  
Well, let me let me start off by giving a shout out to Hannah Goodman. She's the state chair, you know, she established a strong strategy where, you know, she got with Dave Williams, who was the GOP chair, and they established a Liberty pledge, and, you know, GOP candidates, they can sign our liberty pledge. And if it's a if it's a race, that they really don't want to libertarian running against them, and it's partisan. If they sign that libertarian pledge, we'll back out, you know, and then that puts us in a position where we're not exactly splitting votes. And I know that it's not necessarily a popular strategy amongst all libertarians. But the point is, is that it's a strategy and we're starting to play the game. And I really appreciate Hannah for recognizing that, that she's ready to get the process started. And that also means that they're going to back down from nonpartisan races. So it has enabled me to sit down with the GOP chair and we're at Polk County and have conversations about, you know, how we can help her fill in areas where she may not have strength. So perfect, perfect example of that is for Arapahoe County Commissioner, district five. We're running Elise yo Gonzalez as a libertarian, and he got backed up by the Republican Party, because they don't they don't stand a chance in that district. But a libertarian does. So, you know, that's, that's how we're gonna start doing it. That's the way to do it. And we also recognize that what I believe I'm not gonna say that it's a universal fact. But I believe that establishment and non establishment Republicans are, are pretty fractured in the state. So it's really given the Democratic Party the ability to just slide in and do whatever they want to do.

Brian Nichols  12:45  
But Joe, libertarians, Republicans working together, what are you gonna say next, cats and dogs working together to like, what is this monstrosity that you're promoting here? You really think that libertarians and Republicans can find common ground?

Joe Dibiasio  13:04  
Yeah, I think libertarians and Democrats find common ground. I think. I think libertarians can find common ground with a lot. I know, I know. It's like, and I'm sure every libertarian who's listening to this right now is rolling. Their eyes are like, Oh, listen, this guy, he's just, you know, Republican lied or something? I don't know. But I just I think we can all work together. You know, I mean, that the bottom line is, is the way I see it is it's all about individual liberties. And you know, the second you try to take away somebody's right to be an individual, you know, you're just you're just calling on all kinds of problems. Well,

Brian Nichols  13:35  
Joe, how much of the the split that I was just, obviously tongue in cheek referencing, like, How dare Republicans and Democrats or Republicans and libertarians work together? But like, how much of that perceived split is because we are so polarized, versus what you kind of mentioned here is that it used to be an understanding of like, hey, we disagree. But at least we have, you know, some common values, we live in the same area, like, is it that we've gotten online far too much? And we we've seen those differences get ramped up from like, you know, they were just differences to now like they're the biggest differences in the world, or is it something else?

Joe Dibiasio  14:18  
Well, I mean, I actually, it's kind of funny, my personal opinion is that there's polarization, but we're polarized further away from the way the Democrats and Republicans have structured themselves in Colorado. And well, let me give you an example. So you know, we had 38,000 immigrants come to this state. Denver's a sanctuary city. There's all kinds of issues around the budgets. And you know, I think Denver just got like $8.4 million from the police forces, you know, it's like defund the police. It's defund this, we're not laying people off. We're just paying them $0 an hour, you know, like, it's just gotten out of hand. But um, when when I asked the question, okay, well We have all these folks here. And on businesses, how do we hire them? How do I hire a person legally into a business? Well, I can't. Step two, let's look at this. If minimum wage in Denver is around $18 an hour, am I going to pay somebody $18 an hour? To Do you know, unskilled labor? Probably not. So there's really no way to get these people to work. So they're here. Well, when I spoke to the Republicans, and I'm not going to name drop anybody or say anything there, their solution is to give them free stuff. So they can win them over. So they become Republicans. I'm like, Wow, that sounds kind of interesting. That sounds like the democratic strategy to me, too. So the strategy is just a sense of strategy, in my opinion, where I don't think libertarian, and it's funny, because, you know, they're like, Well, we're close border, and I'm like, Well, I'm open border, I, you know, give me your poor, you're tired, you're hungry, I'm happy to have people here. But we need to, we need to follow the rules on how they come in here. We can't just open the borders and let people storm, you know, the Capitol, that's not really the right way to do it. So we can kind of agree on that. But we disagree on how we put these people to work. Because once I said, Well, we should be if they're going to be here, we should be able to put them to work. And the answer is like, well, we don't want them taking our jobs. But we're happy to give them free stuff. So they vote for Republicans. It's just, it's the same thing. I mean, it's one thing to say

Brian Nichols  16:24  
it's rough man. Well, especially when you look at how tough it is to just have conversations nowadays, right? Like, and I've seen this on social media, I'm sure you as well, Joe have seen this, like, you make a comment, like I like oranges. And then you have 14 people come in, say, Why do you hate apples so much? Don't you know that apples have such a hard time going from being a little tiny bud to a big ol apple on the tree? Don't Don't do are you discriminatory against apples, and it turns into just a cluster, right? Versus just people having differences in not having those differences mean? That you hate someone else? Like I believe X. That's all that means? It doesn't mean I hate other groups, it doesn't mean that I don't like other group, it means that I have this value. I like this, I prefer this, and that's okay. But then we go into the dangerous area of Well, what I like, is things that other people do or don't do, right. So if I'm, you know, a Democrat, like I don't want people walking outside without being vaccinated and having a mask on because they might hurt me, or on the other side of the aisle, you know, Republicans, I don't want those kids smoking marijuana because well, you know, it impacts me in some way, shape or form, doesn't it? Then that's the argument, right? And this is, and this is where it turns into a not a matter of I have preferences, it's, I have preferences that you need to to almost echo back, right? You need to mirror my preferences. Otherwise, you're, you're offensive, you're offensive to me not because you're overtly calling my beliefs wrong or bigoted, but because you simply aren't reflecting back what I want you to do.

Joe Dibiasio  18:17  
Yeah, 100%, you know, and that's exactly what it always is, right? It's like, well, if you don't fit into this box that I think you should fit into, then you're my enemy. And you know, and it's funny, because, you know, we got people out there who might disagree with me, and that's okay, we can disagree, we can we can have a conversation about it. But we probably agree on a lot more things than we disagree with. That's just the way it normally works. So yeah, you do get people who want to shout at you saying like, Well, you said oranges, so you must hate apples and bananas and pears and they start naming everything off. And you're like, man, we're just talking about this one thing here, you know, like, you know, the bottom line is, is as a human being above everything else, I actually just feel really bad for that 38 those 38,000 people who came to Colorado and they have no recourse they, they're just political levers. That's all it is. You know, and it's just so sad to me, it's like man, you know, if they're gonna be here, how do they get to work? How do they how do they contribute to society? I don't know. I don't have that answer.

Brian Nichols  19:20  
Well, and that is unfortunately, the direct outcome of very dare I say, I'll just be gentle not thought out. Government policy. Right. And maybe maybe there's some folks who could make the argument that it's not just not thought out it's it's maybe a little bit more thought out and maybe a little not so good. Maybe it's a targeted approach here but using people as pawns right, and that goes to what you're referring here Joe, like people being leveraged as political tools as political pawns in some large game of politic life, it just, I don't know like with it being so polarize online, it seems like this has been escalated to every day, there's something new happening, whether it's college kids protesting on college campuses, you know, whether it was the Occupy Wall Street, the Summer of Love protests and lock downs and all that just insanity, there just seems to be always something on the forefront of our American discourse that just gets everybody all riled up and angry. And I guess here's my question. What can we do? Joe? What can we do to not just find common ground, not just quell some of the angst but how do we as a society get back to functioning again, in a kind of just okay way, because I don't want to see like, I've heard the arguments like I've had Daniel Miller here on the show, he promotes to exit, which is, you know, that the first step towards a national divorce, I've seen folks who they feel that we're on a slippery slope path right down towards civil war. I've heard other folks say, everything's fine, nothing's wrong. And yet it kind of feels like things are wrong. So I don't know. So Joe, what what what do you see as a just a common sense, way for us to stop the polarization stop the fighting both with each other, but also internally, and get back to focusing on the things that I don't know, actually matter?

Joe Dibiasio  21:32  
I don't, I don't really see a solution. In the short term, you know, my, I think I'm almost like, I'm not gonna say I'm an accelerationist. Because I don't believe in I don't necessarily believe that. That's what we need. But I think that people aren't going to have a change of heart until it's bad, until it's truly bad. And you know, it's getting there. But it's not like Argentina, bad. You know, what I mean? And I would love to see somebody like Javier Malay in the US, but I just don't think people have felt the real pain. Yeah, you know, we, we are privileged to live in this country still, you know, we do we do have we, you know, obviously, we have our, you know, our problems with this country, and we, you know, there are there are problems with this country. But by and large, I think we've been very prosperous over the past 100 and some odd years, you know, I just think it's gonna get worse before it will get better.

Brian Nichols  22:27  
Well, and in that timeframe of it getting worse there are things you can do like what you did, you ran for local office, by the way as a big L libertarian, and you won. So Joe, what what does that look like in terms of actually running for office, finding success, and now having a say in your community, especially being that third party? Well, I

Joe Dibiasio  22:49  
want to jump in here. So as chair of Arapahoe County, one of the things that I brought up at a at a meeting was that there was over 200 special districts in in Arapaho alone, that had two to three vacancies on each board. So my own community Whispering Pines, there was a vacancy. So I wasn't elected, I was appointed, but I just threw my name in the hat. And that's all you have to do. You just throw your name in the hat. And you get appointed to the board. And you have control over that mill levy, you know, with with this Metro district out here, and you know, it's not, it's not, you know, we got like, 500 houses in this community. You know what I mean? I'm not like some political player. I'm certainly not Aaron lamb, you know what I mean, He's the mayor of keansburg out here. And he's, he's a big L libertarian, and he's just knocking it out of the park. That's the real player, Colorado, in my opinion. But we, you know, we're small fries. But that's how you get involved. We start building the bench from the ground up. So I reach out to libertarians and say, hey, you know, can you just jump on a special district board? You know, control a mill levy, you know, we talked about, you know, backstage, we were talking about, you know, the bonds out here went from seven and a quarter down to 5%. So, we were able to lower property taxes and Waker, the repeal of the Gallagher act. We pulled from our reserves, and we went from a mill levy of 87, down to 56. I believe. So that was that that happened this year. So my property taxes went from 14,000 down to 11,000. I was I was pretty happy about that. And I think I think a lot of people in the community were pretty happy about that, too. So

Brian Nichols  24:29  
$3,000 off your property tax bill that that might do it, Joe.

Joe Dibiasio  24:32  
Yeah. You know, and so you know, being a big ol libertarian, you know, I think most people just it was kind of funny because you know, the haters in the neighborhood to keep me off. They said I was too progressive. It was pretty.

Brian Nichols  24:44  
Or you're too progressive while you're cutting our taxes. Wait,

Joe Dibiasio  24:48  
well, they didn't want me in because so I do the contracts and I have the clubhouse in the pool. Right. And the way that I see it is the clubhouse falls under a it's an SC er To SOE, it's a state owned enterprise, it's commercially zoned property. And it's owned by the government. But we don't have anybody who rents it out. It's just like, we don't have vendors, we don't have anything on like, we bring in some vendors to sell coffee or something, and make a deal for 10% of the revenues to bring in more more revenue for the community. So we could further lower property taxes, or maybe do those maintenance things that we need to do without hiking up property taxes. And it's funny, it's just like, people are like, This is absurd, there's just too much risk we're gonna get sued is pretty

Brian Nichols  25:32  
funny. So, Joe, we're gonna work our final thoughts here, and I'll kick things off before I turn it over to you. But I want to piggyback on that. So right over there, literally over there is another podcast studio. And as my good buddies, Jeremiah, Morell, and Dakota Davis, they have a podcast here locally in the greater Eastern Indiana area called the Boss Hog of liberty. And what they do is they interview local candidates who are not local candidates. That's one piece of the puzzle, but local business owners, candidates, you name it, they have him on the show, but it's a very local politics podcast. And one of the things that blows me away every time they have a candidate series, is that every candidate, Republican and Democrat alike, seems to think that the only way to increase revenue for our tiny community here of 20,000 people is to raise taxes. And I'm sitting there and they're like, Gosh, darn it, guys. What am I doing here? Why is it always that you need to feel that you need to raise taxes in order to bring revenue into the community, maybe, you know, making a more business friendly environment, or making it a more tax friendly environment would bring more people in, thus helping incentivize, you know, economic activity in the community, which, by its very nature, helps bring more dollars to the community. So it just It pains me to hear that this is the tired and true standard approach to dealing with issues the status quo solution, raise taxes, put more money at it by taking the money from the people who are using the service. I don't know we're gonna make it work, though, right? That's the approach and it's broken, we know it's broken, we look at our communities, and we see our crumbling infrastructure, I need to drive down Main Street here in my town, to only uncover like 15 potholes recently dug up, because our water main breaks were so bad. So like, we're seeing the impacts of a broken status quo system to air, quote, get revenue to pay for these different areas that frankly, if the government is going to claim responsibility on, they have an obligation to do to do that part, but they're doing so so poorly. So if we want things to get better, if we want different ideas to come to the table, much like what Joe has done here in his community, it starts with us actually getting involved bringing different ideas to the table standing up and saying, hey, you know what, maybe we can do things a different way. And that's okay. Yes, there might be risk. But you know, what, it's a lot less risky than knowing that every single member of our community is going to have their taxes increase, thus harming the ability for them to want live their lives, invest, feel comfortable in retirement, whatever it may be, we have a chance to bring a different solution to the table. But it starts with us standing up and saying, hey, there might be a different way. That's my final thoughts for today. Joe, what do you have for us on your end? And also where can folks go ahead? Find you continue the conversation over on the social medias and more?

Joe Dibiasio  28:32  
Yeah, you can find me on my my ex handle just Joe underscore DB Osseo and I changed the name to dystopian daydream. And then I got a picture of Javier Malay with the chainsaw that says a Florida so you'll know that to me. You know, my final thoughts are pretty simple, you know, get involved, you know, just even if you just go out to you know, your local affiliate, you know, and, you know, meet with like minded people, you'll see that a lot of us, a lot of us, you know, we we believe in the same things. We want the same outcome. We just want people to be left alone for the most part. And I think a lot of people are really libertarian deep down inside. They just, you know, they just are kind of, I guess under the spell where you got to vote for a Democrat or Republican because a libertarian will never win Well, it's starting to look more and more like we do have a chance

Brian Nichols  29:27  
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Joe Dibiasio  33:38  
Just get out there and do it guys. Just get out there and do it. Get involved?

Brian Nichols  33:42  
There's the call to action. Get out there and do it if you don't, Joe and I will be very disappointed. So with that being said Brian about signing off here on The Brian Nichols Show for Joe de Blasio. We'll see you next time.

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