Aug. 15, 2022

562: How Can Libertarians Break Past the "Little Fish in Little Pond Syndrome"!?

You don't want to be an echo chamber—you want to break past the "little fish in little pond" syndrome and build coalitions with people who aren't exactly like you.

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On today's episode, I talk about how Libertarians can learn a thing or two from Republicans and Democrats when it comes to building coalitions.


If you're a Libertarian, then chances are you have your own little pond that you swim in—and that's OK! But it's also important to realize that every little fish needs to reach out of the water sometimes. That means reaching out to people who aren't like you, having conversations with them, and learning from them.


You don't want to be an echo chamber—you want to break past the "little fish in little pond" syndrome and build coalitions with people who aren't exactly like you.


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Brian Nichols  0:00  
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Brady Leonard  0:13  
It's still possible, they might put it up on the Supreme Court for 25 or 30 minutes, depending on what the next Republicans elected president. And if he didn't join the GOP, if he was just some awesome libertarian lawyer from Utah, which no shame in that, I mean, he'd still be a badass, don't get me wrong. But if you were just some libertarian lawyer, member of the LP from Utah that none of us had ever heard of. That's the difference in scope between the LP and the GOP, you're talking to a Supreme Court justice versus some random guy in Salt Lake City, you know what I mean? So it's like, it's I just want these people to join. I, you know, for guys like Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Ron Paul, they're their career arc does not look the way it has. They haven't, they wouldn't be winning hearts and minds for Liberty like they are without the Republican Party and the infrastructure that the Republican Party has built over the last 150 years.

Brian Nichols  1:06  
Well, what are you speaking to you right in here, I'll put my sales executive hat back on, because I know everybody hates it. I mean, at the end of the day, everything is sales, right? You're there selling yourself and idea. And here's the reality, right, you're talking about value, you're talking about the fact that people look at the GOP as a means of value, and value is a platform value is that you're able to then get your ideas out to a an audience that you otherwise probably wouldn't talk to, and you wouldn't reach. And here's the dirty little secret Brady, and this is what a lot of libertarians don't want people to know is that they don't want the movement to grow. They want it to stay this Puritan like moving where you have your your core group of members who they've passed the religious, fundamental testing, and they are the purest and the best out there. And they want to be the you know, that the kings and queens of being right. And that's great, you know, they have been for the longest time. And now they're realizing that if this thing does, in fact, grow, and we do end up bringing more people into the movement, number one, you're going to see the movement overtly become less libertarian, that's going to happen. And the reason being is because when we first get people into the movement, they're not going to be libertarian, they're going to be asking questions, and they need to be educated. And it's going to be on those, you know, those OG members, right? To be the folks who are going to be leading the charge and helping educate them along the way. In the world of wine. There are so many choices, and that's why blood of tyrants, wine has tyrants losing their heads, whether you're looking for a new go to that home, or watching the press your friends at a party, a lot of times wine has you covered. And if you're trying to get rid of some errands in your life, well, we've got the cover to head the Brian Nichols forward slash wine and get $5 off your order. One more time, Brian Nichols, forward slash wine free men don't ask permission. So take a sip, you'll be glad you did. Unfortunately, we've seen too often than not, you know, as Larry sharp will bring in the folks as the recruiter, then you'll see that the folks in the moment say, Oh, he's aren't libertarians, and then it'll send them and it's like, well, no kidding. I didn't say they were late. We need to convert them. So that that needs to be step one is knowing that we need to bring people in. But step number two, is understanding that as we grow, you're going to have more people that traditionally you aren't going to agree with in the movement. And that's okay. When you look at the Republican Party and the Democratic Party for that matter. They are parties of coalition's right 100%. And yeah, look at the left, right, we had what 20 candidates on the left on a democratic stage for the primaries here. And you had folks like Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang up there with folks like Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and then Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Now I'd say all three of those kinds of bubbles are very different in terms of the way that they would approach politics within the Democratic Party. But you know what, as libertarians I could see a Tulsi and Andrew Yang coalition being much more likely to side with libertarians on certain issues than the likes of you know someone like a elitist like a you know, Elizabeth Warren or the folks out there who are the oligarchies in the Joe Biden camp right? They're not going to care so much about principle or what's right or wrong but more so what keeps power so that's why I say you know, when we're looking at growing this this greater liberty movement we have to understand that as we bring people in you're going to naturally see them go into coalition's and that's okay, those coalition's are fine, and you're going to see this kind of sway back and forth and we see it in the big parties, right you see a conservative takeover. Then you see the Neo Upon takeover, then you see the populace takeover. And it goes back and forth and back and forth, the GOP and the Democratic Parties, they've been showing us that this happens in the Libertarian Party or learning it ourselves. Whether it's the pragmatics or the Mises caucus, whoever it's going to be, here's the reality, they have to be the party that's going to be leading right leading us towards some ultimate goal. And I think, right, here's the unfortunate reality, right? Libertarians too often confuse leadership and empower structures, right? So they look at somebody who is in a leadership role, and they instantly have this reservation towards them because they confuse a leader with somebody who has power and that power that can be used against them versus somebody who is trying to guide a collective group of people. For you know,

this one common goal. And, you know, while we're not in a collective mindset, we are trying to get this one common goal and this goal is individual liberty across the board. And once we're able to, you know, in Jason Stapleton 's analogy, you know, we're on this spaceship through space towards Liberty land, right. And we're on this spaceship together, and we are so freakin far away that like for you to say like, Hey, listen, I can't be on his spaceship to Liberty land with his folks because they're too different from me. It's like, Listen, you were in the same church is different views, folks.

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