Dec. 14, 2022

643: End the Duopoly: New Indie Film "LET'S PARTY" Challenges Two-Party System

In this thought-provoking movie, director Brad Lyon (@BradLeoLyon) challenges the notion that the only viable political options in America are limited to the Democratic and Republican parties.

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Are you tired of feeling trapped by the two-party system in the United States? Do you believe that supporting third parties is not a wasted effort? If so, then you'll love the new indie film "LET'S PARTY".

In this thought-provoking movie, director Brad Lyon (@BradLeoLyon) challenges the notion that the only viable political options in America are limited to the Democratic and Republican parties. Through engaging storytelling and compelling arguments, "LET'S PARTY" makes a powerful case for the importance of supporting third parties and breaking the duopoly.

This is a re-airing of our popular episode featuring the movie's director, so don't miss your chance to see it again and spread the word. Together, we can end the duopoly and open up the political landscape to new possibilities!

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Brian Nichols  0:00  
Tired of being told you can only vote for Republicans or Democrats? Yeah. Let's talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Mafia Wednesday there, folks, Brian Nichols here on The Brian Nichols Show. And thank you for joining us on of course, another fun filled episode. I am as always your humble host. Joining us live from our Stratus ip Studios here in lovely Eastern Indiana. Don't let cyber attacks or outdated Business Technology, put your company at risk. Learn more at the Brian Nichols Forward slash Stratos I pee. Yeah. Republicans, Democrats, that's all you can vote for? Well, what if you are one of the quite literally millions of Americans out there who are tired of being told that you must vote for one of these old archaic political systems? Are you tired? That of hearing that maybe voting for a third party is a wasted vote? Heck, are you just tired altogether with the duopoly? Well, if you are like, yes, one of those millions of Americans and you're gonna love today's episode, because we are going back to a conversation we had with Brad at Leo lion, where we said it's time to party not just it's time to party. We said let's party because we're talking about his brand new documentary called called Let's party, which is talking about tackling and taking down the duopoly yes, if you get value from today's episode, we'll be sure to go ahead and give today's episode a share. Stick around afterwards. Go ahead and wrap things up. With that being said on to our re air of our awesome episode with Brad Leo lion here on The Brian Nichols Show.

Brad Leo Lyon  1:44  
Hey, it's great to be here. I appreciate you guys taking the time and helping us spread the word.

Brian Nichols  1:50  
Absolutely. Well, spreading the word is the absolute goal here of The Brian Nichols Show. Our mission is to educate, enlighten and inform. And what are we trying to do sell some liberty and that's exactly what you're doing over at your amazing new movie in his let's party, focusing on how US pesky third party folks out there can actually make a difference in the world. And in this case, promote liberty, which is the goal here The Brian Nichols Show. But that being said, Brett, let's kind of do a quick intro though. Before we start talking about let's party. Um, obviously you must have some political leanings be doing a more overtly third party movie focusing on liberty? So can I introduce yourself to the audience? And what got you into wanting to do this awesome brand new movie, let's party?

Brad Leo Lyon  2:26  
Well, you know, there's there's no mistaking the fact that I do have my own political leanings in a certain manner. But with that being said, what's important for the sake of me creating a quality film, is to not let the bias of my own views get into it. You know, the job of this film isn't about one party, it's not about the libertarians, it's not about the greens, it's simply about giving a voice to all parties. As a matter of fact, it's not even truly anti Republican or anti Democrat, you know, for the most part, I believe in, you know, every member of their party should have a chance to have their voice or to have the problem for you know, their own parties is, in the case of their parties. They don't even get to have their voices barely heard anymore. You know, for them, it's not so much about let us do what will our party members our constituents want, as it is, let us just scare you into having to vote for us no matter what. You know, there was years ago where when you watch the campaign, the campaign was truly about here's my platform, here's how I plan to attempt to make a change whether that is the case or not, you know, today, it's about you absolutely can't vote for that other guy, you have to vote, you have to show up, you have to vote for me. And when it comes to you know, even voting third parties, the old adage is now what, you know, if you vote for a third party, you're voting for the other candidate, which is obviously completely ignorant. But when they spend so much time and money and effort, selling that concept to their own constituents, and as a constituent, you become locked into the belief that your party is telling you the truth, because you want them to be telling you the truth, you want to be on the same team. And if you're on the same team, your captain isn't going to be misleading you. So you truly try and convince yourself that they're they're really being honest with you. And that's really what let's party is about. It's about simply providing factual evidence of what the two major parties do to suppress their parties. And when you take a look at the actual factual evidence of what happens in our country, you realize, oh, we've got two major parties who are simply suppressing third party voices and these voices could actually be of value. And most importantly, simply having more options would force the major parties to do their job, because you'd be forced to actually succeed at the things you're doing or you would be replaced. Because as long as there's only you know, two strong parties, it's very easy to point at the other one be like, Hey, you might not like the fact we have made a significant change. You might not like the fact that we haven't did all the things we promised to do. But you don't want to vote for that evil one on the other side, so there's no choice That's why it's all about trying to give a

Brian Nichols  5:02  
choice. Well, and right there, right, giving a choice creating options in the marketplace. And you know, if we're gonna, you know, be the Libertarians that we are here at The Brian Nichols Show, because by and large, our audience is predominantly libertarian. But I mean, that being said, you know, it is on us to have to kind of play this thorn in the side role, but also we do have an uphill battle. And I don't think a lot of people realize, Brad that it really is a stacked deck against him. I mean, I had Mark walls it who was on the show, and he's an assemblyman up in New York. He's a Republican, but he's more libertarian leaning his his political leanings and such, but he was saying how, you know, in this brand new bill for New York State, they're trying to sneak in, you know, bills, basically wiping out third parties, and people don't realize this is the the part that it does make me so frustrated, because the two major parties do this in behind secret, dark, smoke filled rooms. And when it happens, your average person is like, wait, what, really, and they have no idea that it took place because I can't leave, right. I think your average person, they're not really politically aware, like your average political junkie is right there kind of just what passively aware, if not just kind of living their own life, they're not really focused on who I mean, I forget who it was, I think it was, um, Jay Leno used to do a thing where they'd bring somebody or like a man on the street segment, and they would send somebody out to ask, you know, who's the Speaker of the House? And they would have no idea who's the vice president? And they have no idea. Who's the president, you're asking during the Bush administration and like, Reagan, Clinton? Here's the thing. That's not untypical, right, your average person is pretty just there. Like they they live their life. And they're just focused on putting food on the table. Right, you know, kind of going from point A to point P going through the motions. And they don't see this, you know, the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain, really, they have created this big, gigantic Leviathan, but it's just being held up by these two archaic, and I'd say very backwards in the types of their policies parties in the traditional duopoly. That is the GOP and the Democrats. I'm curious, Brian, I say all that because, obviously, you know, it's an issue, we identify the issue, and you're offering an alternative solution to set issue. But we still see the GOP and the Democratic Party respectively, holding on to a very firm base of Americans, somewhere in the ballpark of 40 to 50%, who will end up casting their vote for either the red team or the blue team every two to four years. So I can ask you, right? How do we get here? How is it that we can identify this problem and call it the problem than it is? While the rest of America is so quick to jump on Team Red Team Blue, despite this very obvious and very, I guess, shall we say, easy to understand basic fact?

Brad Leo Lyon  7:52  
Well, you know, the reality is a lot of people just simply like being bandwagon supporters. You know, a lot of times, it's simply I want to vote for the team that's gonna win, not necessarily voting for the team that's gonna support me or help me. So you know, when you, when you look at mentality of this is the most likely winner is so much easier to be like, okay, look, I'm part of Team winner. That doesn't mean a third party isn't necessarily team loser. But the reality is, the person who gets the most votes wins. You know, and that's just a simplistic aspect of it. So you know, that's your first ideology, you got to get over. But I mean, not to get into a religion topic. But I mean, if you think about yourself as being born into a family, your family is going to have specific beliefs, you know, especially religious beliefs, and quite often those things are going to be instilled on you from birth. So as you're raised in that process, you you come to believe those things to be factual, even when there's not a strong foundation to base it up. So as you are born into that, and you grow into that, your, your motivation is to find information that supports that ideology, not to not to dispute it, you know, let's party isn't going to solve all the problems in the world by any means. Let's party simply actually being sent out marketed to traditional voters just simply to say, hey, look, let me bring some awareness to you. Let me inform you what your party's actually doing. And here's the funniest part, guys. They're not evil for that, per se. When you're a campaign manager, or your job is you're hired as part of the political party to basically create a foundation of success. You're simply out there doing your job, they're just doing their job. Well. I mean, heck, though, the biggest lie that they're they're making people believe is the fact that they're the original party. So they're not actually the original parties. They were third parties who managed to do this. And now what they're doing is they're saying, Hey, this is how we got there. Let's paint what we did as being not possible. You know, let's do the exact opposite and convince people what we did this can happen even though we're literally living proof, you know, Republicans and Democrat Are both living proof that third parties can succeed? Well,

Brian Nichols  10:03  
not only that, it speaks to just the value of an open and free marketplace, right? Whenever and it's funny, I was just over on Mark Claire's Lions of liberty sneak behind the Patreon wolves. This episode hasn't aired yet. But you're talking about this, right? Your average person is a Pepsi or Coke person. But there's a big group of RC Cola people out there. And it's funny, we were on the show, and he looked on Facebook, and there's groups out there dedicated to RC Cola. But guess what? Your average person still if you say hey, do you want to cola? They're gonna say sure, yeah, Pepsi or Coke, right? And that's just the fundamental basic, you know, reality of where we're at. But we know that if tomorrow Coca Cola accidentally has a vat of their Coca Cola killed 10 million people. Guess what, guess who's gonna go out of business? Pretty fast. Coca Cola?

Brad Leo Lyon  10:57  
Well, you would think but heck, we're a country where we poison our own people like we didn't Flint, but we're still voting for the people that poison the people. And

Brian Nichols  11:04  
there you go. Right. So you're from Flint, I was doing some research, I saw that. And you get to see firsthand that well, when there isn't an option for the government to compete against someone who can offer a better service or in your case, just not poison their constituents. Well, guess what, there's nobody to really hold that government accountable. And in the marketplace, you know, if it's a Coca Cola versus Pepsi, well, then guess what the probably the next best flavored soda that's closest to Coke is going to fill that that void in the interim, while a competitor joins the marketplace. And that speaks to going to your point for let's party, right? That speaks to the value that these third parties are bringing to the table. And we see this especially in the liberty movement, right? You look at Republicans who will talk a good game, or give at least lip service to the concepts and ideas of liberty. But then you actually have libertarian candidates who are running like unabashedly libertarian. And if you're in an area where that libertarian is speaking to the libertarian issue, that's actually a hot button issue for your community. Like, maybe it's privatizing trash collection insurance service, right, because the city's been dropping the ball on collecting their trash, like we saw here happen to my home city in Philadelphia, we went I think, was four and a half weeks without trash being collected at one point during the peak of the pandemic. So if you're the rabid libertarian, and you make that your one issue, well, guess what, you can now push the Republican candidate more toward that issue, because either they have to take that more libertarian approach to it, or they're going to yield it to you. And that's going to actually push some people away from you and casting your vote. So again, it speaks to just the overall value of this open and free competitive marketplace, because it will incentivize people to number one, do better. But number two, actually stand by what they're saying they're supposed to do. In the world of wine, there are so many choices, and that's why blood of tyrants, wine has tyrants losing their heads, whether you're looking for a new goto at home, or watching the press your friends at a party, a lot of times wine has you covered. And if you're trying to get rid of some pesky parents in your life, well, we've got that covered, too. And the Brian Nichols forward slash wine and get $5 off your order. One more time, Brian Nichols, forward slash wine freemen don't ask permission. So take a sip, you'll be glad you did.

Brad Leo Lyon  13:16  
I don't disagree with that one. One bit. You know, one of the things too, we have to remember, regardless, what third party we belong to, is the absence of knots, marketing, specifically to the major parties, we have to market to Republicans, we have to market to Democrats, we actually have to go out and do what they used to do in the 50s. And 60s, you know, and that's actually campaign based on a platform. But also I like your aspect of, you know, the single the single topic issue there is, you know, there's a lot of opportunity to push for specific change in specific areas that people want. Your average voter only becomes politically motivated in the United States, because one particular topic wound up hitting them directly. We were talking about it right off the bat, most person isn't politically minded, they wind up interested simply because they have one particular topic and sitting close to home, and then they go on find the party that's, you know, supporting that particular topic. Otherwise, they stay home. People don't vote in the United States, we do a horrible job of showing up. And to top it off, we do a horrible job of motivating the independent voter. You're the largest voting body is not Republican or Democrat, even now, even after this horrible election. We just had, you know, the largest registered voting number is independent registered voters, not Republican or Democratic voters. You know, the people exist to actually vote for alternatives. You just have to motivate a populace to actually believe in that the simplistic concept of motivated populace begins with advertising and marketing to them. You know, one of the things I often see failed by a lot of third party candidates, is they push their mark kidding, they push their speeches, they push their reach out to their own registered supporters, and not outside of it. And I hate to tell you even just talking to the Libertarian Party, you only have 600 and some 1000 registered voters that are libertarian registered voters in United States last time I checked, that's not going to be 70 million.

Brian Nichols  15:19  
Correct. If I were to go to a libertarian group, and I were to say, talk to me about civil asset forfeiture, or I go tell me about the non Aggression Principle, I would say nine times out of 10, there would be a, you know, reply on on there a chain of people telling me exactly what it was in a heartbeat, right? If you go to your average person, and you say, what's the non Aggression Principle? They're gonna say, what? And you say, What's your thoughts on civil asset forfeiture? And they're gonna say, what's that? And that is it speaks to, you're almost talking a different language, right. And one of the things that I've been trying to promote is meeting people where they're at and and this actually goes beyond just talking about the issues that the people are having in their lives. And, you know, whether it's that that bedbug issue, you know, how are we putting food on the table, little things like that, right. But also, when we are able to enter into the conversation in the medium that they're most familiar with, and you're approaching it through a culture, a cultural approach, using in this case, film. And I think that's exactly an approach, we not not only need to take, but we if we don't take it, we're actually going to be going backwards, because here's the dirty little secret. The other two parties, they are infiltrating the culture, through film through whatever media forum it can be. I mean, goodness, Ben Shapiro just did a feature film.

Brad Leo Lyon  16:52  
I mean, we've got the two major box office films that were literally oriented around the concept of elections, you know, that just came out with the past couple years, you know, they spend the money constantly creating high production value media. Now, when the common person starts googling on their computer, right, when they start typing, and they're searching for their particular issue, you know, their one issue that's making them decide, alright, maybe I will go ahead, after I've not been listened to it by my fellow Republicans, or if not listened to by my fellow Democrats. And I'm gonna go ahead and just for the shits and giggles, I'm going to take a look at the Green Party, or I'm going to take a look at the Libertarians or ASP, and they start to take a look at them. And they're looking for media because guess what, we're simplistic people, especially your typical non your, your traditional voter. So they're looking for a piece of media that they can watch, you know, a movie, they can watch something they can watch. And if we continually show them these, these low end pieces, where these people think like, wow, this is the best example This party has, obviously they're telling me Don't take himself seriously. And when you use that type of example, you will never motivate a traditional voter. That's why let's party is so so important on a certain level, is the fact it's giving third parties quality media that gives a contrasting, educated view on the situation without like shoving the message down their throat, like we're actually going out. We're creating a narrative film. That's a hybrid documentary. So that's some pure boring documentary, because here's the reality. Most people couldn't give a shit less about watching documentaries. You know, yeah, there's a few million people in America who's gonna go out and watch one every now and then. And there's half a million people that's gonna be dedicated. But guess what, half a million people doesn't win elections. But there are millions of people that watch a narrative film. And that's why this film is a narrative film that simply takes people on a voyage with the central character where he goes out and says, Hey, you know, as a third party is actually viable alternatives? And if so, could they actually win? What if we actually did support them? What if we did actually just simply show up and vote that all it actually takes you answering fulfilling those simplistic questions to a traditional voter changes a traditional voters mentality instantly? Because all of a sudden, we're like, oh, wait a second. Yes, I heard this and this and this. But well, here's a couple of just plain black and white facts. And knowing these black and white facts, maybe it's worth supporting a candidate that believes in my views

Brian Nichols  19:19  
yet, well, right there, right. Maybe it's worth supporting a candidate that actually supports my views. How often? Do we actually hear people be able to say that actually, it's funny you say that I had Ian Dunt on my show, Ian. He is from the UK. He's a regular over on BBC. And he's what you consider more of a classical liberal in the most most classical of sense. And when I had him on my show, he had a very interesting quote, It struck me funny, cuz I never really thought about it, but he goes in his British accent he goes, you know, Brian, I never am. I am gonna try to appreciate accent somebody. He goes, I've never had the luxury of voting for someone I like, but rather I often vote, I entirely vote on trying to prevent the worst possible outcome. And my goodness, I mean, how powerful is that when it hits you, because it makes you really all sudden take a step back and think your average person probably thinks the exact same way, because they look at Trump as orange Hitler. And they looked at Biden, as you know, the second coming of, you know, Mao's great cultural leap forward over in China only here in the United States. So naturally, both sides of the political aisle are looking at the other side is the greatest boogeyman possible. So they're voting entirely out of fear. Now, me as the sales guy, right? I know entirely emotion sells. And then people rationalize that with logic and reason. So I'm always trying to think, Okay, well, how can we focus on the emotions that are going to sell the most and unfortunately, the emotions that do sell the most right now are fear. So I hear your average person I hear in done saying, the things that I mean, just reaffirm what we know to be true emotion sells, and fear is the the most intense emotion. So if it's not fear, it's love. Right? So let me ask you this. If we're losing the fear game win, we will lose the fear game because right now the people who have the control are the ones the ones that have guns, right. So

Brad Leo Lyon  21:24  
let me go out there for one second before you go further on that. We're not losing the game. We're not even playing Amen. We have to sign up and participate. Yeah, we're not participating with shit right now. Okay, though. Yeah. The reality is we're not playing the game. We're talking to our handful of our own voters, not with no intention of actually believing we're gonna win. That's a great point. Yep. Our candidates are not going out there battling matter of fact, our campaign plans are some of the most ridiculous plants I've ever seen. And hate to tell you guys this. I'm from that world. I spent almost a decade representing in winning for candidates. Alright, here's the difference. I ran campaigns that won. And the reality is, none of these campaigns are trying to win, they have no interest in trying to win. They're just adding their social popularity and in their tiny little circle, I mean, not not to attack a particular candidate or a particular plan. But driving a bus around a country to places like Alaska, hoping that will somehow win over votes in, in particular states that there's absolutely no chance of you know, turning electorial by staying there for one day, that is not campaigning to win, you. It's not really that complicated, even potentially, you'll be competitive with when there's three or more potential parties, which you have to look at yourself as a candidate each time as three or more suddenly, because there's already the two. So all of a sudden, you no longer have to win 270 280 Vote electricals, you don't because there's a multitude of you, you simply have to get your larger base of a third. So now that you know that mathematically, they've actually set up the board for you brilliantly, that you can thank the Democrats or Republicans, they've isolate a whole bunch of states that you don't need to take the time to go in, because you can't. But there's a whole bunch of states that have a massive, independent voter base, they have a massive, both blue and red base that fluctuate consistently, year in, year out. And if you spent the time showing up to those states, spending the limited dollars that we do have advertising in those states so that they actually hear your words, and you show up and you talk to Democratic and Republican potential voters as well as those independent voters, you have a shot because you don't have to win 50 states, you'd have to win 15 When there's three plus parties, and it can be done, but not when you're doing ridiculously stupid campaigns.

Brian Nichols  23:50  
And you have to focus on the issues people care about, right. So let's take for example, something that's close to home for you, right? If somebody were to run for office in Flint, Michigan, under the Listen, we're actually going to solve this crisis, we're going to we're going to solve the Flint, Michigan water crisis. That would be huge, because you guys are going on nearly a decade now with this being a problem. And that would be astronomical in terms of building credibility with not just that constituency base, but establishing some credibility as a not just a group of people in an ideology, but in a party in this case, because I mean, here's the reality, people are looking for that resume, for better or for worse. And right now, we really, if you're, you know, a third party candidate in general, we don't really have too many people we can point to as successful candidates with that resume until they're you know, they build up the resume within that two party system, and then they decide to jump ship, usually in the last parts of their career, which is great. Like if you want to go out in the principled stance, that's awesome. And I encourage people to do that. If you're a part of the major two parties, then by all means, like, take that step because it does require us to have the people who do You have that cred right to to take the step first because the average person, they are kind of looking to be, you know, guided, at the very least to the right direction or what they think is the right direction. You know, that's why, for better for worse celebrities have so much credibility, right? And because people have this emotional tie to them when they watch their movies. I use this analogy last week, they look at Tom Hanks, and they're like, I trust Tom Hanks. You know, I feel that when Tom Hanks says he has a snake in his boots, oh, my goodness, he does. And as the person seeing Tom Hanks now saying, I support Joe Biden. And I was like, Well, I must support Joe Biden, because I like Tom Hanks, right? And that's, we call it like political folks. We're like, that's insane. But your average person is like, yeah, I get it. Like, I like them as a person. Like, that actually means something to people. And we have to instead of saying, it shouldn't be that way, we'll stomp our feet, and we'll put our fingers in our ears, no scream until we're blue in the face. So of saying that we have to acknowledge it right and in ways to play that game. So I'm gonna say this, as we go for the end of the show here. You're in film you're in, you're in the industry, right? I've been trying to think of a way that we can get past this kind of roadblock that is this this celebrity roadblock, right. And just always being told, you know, the ideas of really individual liberty are bad, right? We need some people, I think, to stand up in the culture. And I'm curious, just based on your kind of knowing probably the industry better than what 99.9% of listeners hear in The Brian Nichols Show, including yours truly. Curious? Yeah, I'm curious. What do you think could be maybe some some cultural leaders that we could start to to point to and raise up as we move forward here trying to actually make some some substantive change moving forward?

Brad Leo Lyon  26:47  
Well, I'm about to break your heart here. I would love to pretend there's a list of people who are gung ho and ready to go to battle. But one of the toughest decisions that I faced in my filmmaking career was moving forward with going ahead and doing this movie. Because in the world of entertainment, your political views can be a death sentence. You know, Los Angeles in and of itself is highly a democratic, highly blue region. If you speak out against the Democratic vote in that area. You're ostracizing yourself. It's far even worse, if you're going to do something crazy, like make a film that supports third parties. I mean, heck, I, I lost a directing gig for this year, the moment and, and for a reasonable reason. I don't disagree with it. They came to me and said, Hey, look, we're paying you to do this film, you're not going to make crap money doing this movie, you know, it seems more logical for you to take this gig. It's not that they were anti the views of the film. The reality is they don't want to change their movie coming out with me attached to the director, with the concept that I'm the guy who directed the third party movie, I understood their perspective, I'm not angry at them. I've also lost small investors on which are my normal group of teams. As I, as I produce each various film, we have small investors and they, they combined to finance our film, I've had some of them back out on us because of this, and they gave me the ultimatum, just don't do the movie. We love being part of your team just don't do it. And, and I had to think about that for a minute. And that's why to answer your question, there's not a lot of them out there, there's really not because the majority of the ones that are, are very polarized, and that's simply by having an opinion, you know, the Roseanne Barr is of the world, you know, a lot of these people out there, their careers got destroyed when they decided to share their political beliefs. I mean, you can't find a red entertainer, that's a major mainstream celebrity anymore. It's an island, and he's in the event anymore, for Pete's sake, because he, you know, believes the way he believes. So I would love to be able to say, here's a list. And I'll tell you what our our our industry is very close to, you know, even the little guy like me, who has been a producer in 30 Plus films, I've met most everyone along the way, because we're nomadic, and when I might not be a director on something, maybe I was a PA and something you know, and I've had a lot of interactions with amazing, fantastic individuals who are opinionated, but at the same time know that their job and their careers on the line if they take that shot, so there's not a lot they'll jump out, you know, the reality is we have to make it safer for them. We have to be willing to be a little less uptight, a little less vulgar to every single person from the outside the group we have to be the friendly, inviting groups to where supporting the friendly, inviting thing doesn't make them seem so evil or polarized to the other sides, you know, and right now, we don't do a good job of that. Right now. There's a lot of people in some specific parties that prefer to never worry about winning. They just want to be able to bitch about what they believe. They don't care about advancing. They just want to be able to complain

Brian Nichols  29:55  
know why every single libertarian just went Wow, is he talking about us? And I think it was Sure why everybody's ears are starting to ring collectively. But how about this, here's a here we'll we'll wrap up on a call to action, right? Because it is indicative on us to make sure we're going on our way to not just engage in more, you know, more civil discourse, more empathetic discourse engaging with people we wouldn't normally engage with, right? But it's also important that we support folks out there in the media who are taking a stand doing things differently and leading by example, which Brad line of course you are doing let's party where can folks go ahead and follow this my friend, obviously, we want make sure we lead people to go ahead and give us some some eyeballs. So where can folks go ahead and find this brand new, awesome film?

Brad Leo Lyon  30:41  
Well, the easiest way right off the bat right now is simply go to let's party As many of you guys know, we actually were running an Indiegogo campaign for a while. And here's the great news from that front, right before the end date of the campaign. We want to so viral and so popular for net, we became the number one crowdfunding film, Indiegogo in the world for a day, then the number one creative film in the world for the day number 14 over on the world for a day or two. And that enabled us to be go in demand. So our campaign is actually still up and running. Because Indiegogo came to us and said, Hey, you guys did a great job, you're popular, we're gonna keep you know, running, which is fantastic, because we still need to support your average film, from the year 1999 to 2018, the average movie made in the United States and Canada was made for $18 million. I'm making a movie right now for less than 50,000. Now, you know, so to come out here and make a quality film and be competitive and make something I in. It's very tough on that budget. So So anytime you can go out and go to let's party and buy a t shirt or get your name in the credits or do something to help support this movie, it gives myself and my crew a better shot of making a great film. And that's all that we're asking, you know, just support those people who are willing to go out there and fight for you. Just like support and Brian show here, you know, he's out here trying to be a voice giving people like myself a chance to be heard. So please, you know, support Brian show tune in, if there's contributions that show or sponsors you know, sponsoring shows too, because we need media willing to put our voices out so we can be heard. You know, the one great thing about this film is we won't be so reliant on third party spraying the word, you know, we will have the ability of you know, having it on amazon prime on being able to share it to a vast audience, and then it's just gonna come down to if the film's quality enough that people want to hear WATCH IT support it, or if they can digest the message enough. And with that being the case, I'm very hopeful that it makes an impact. So please check out let's party the Y'all support all those other podcasters? Like Brian out here young doing their part to get the word out there? Man Oh, by the way, I haven't been in Flint in a long time. So please don't for the audience out there. I'm not an Michigan resident anymore. I don't mean to imply that it's been nearly, you know, closing on a decade since I live there. Well, hey, you

Brian Nichols  33:03  
know, but it's still home sweet home, I'm sure I know. I'm from the middle of nowhere, upstate New York, and it's still hopefully home to me, I actually just have to say my Assemblyman Mark walls are going to show and being able to talk about these kinds of issues with people and again, you know, talking to people who actually can make a difference, right. And that's where it starts is being able to have these conversations. And to your point, right, it's supporting the people who are going out there and trying to be the difference makers, right? And yes, this is a labor of love. We don't do this just for you know, the rolling in cash, and I'm still waiting for my my coke bucks to bake it to my bank accounts, still haven't gotten the right routing number yet, I guess. But you know, we still need to make sure that we are supporting each other. So with that being said, Well, I'll make sure I do Brad as I include all the links to not only let's party, but also all the other work you've been doing. Over there. You've been doing phenomenal work. Thank you for all the work, they are helping raise awareness getting more folks are aware that yes, third parties are not just out there, but also a viable option to make things better. Brand lion. Let's party thank you so much for joining The Brian Nichols Show. Thank you, right. All right, folks, that's gonna wrap up our conversation back in January 2021. With Brad and Leo lion actually, I was right in the process of moving at that time. It was crazy. Crazy time. Yeah, we're almost going on a year now that I've been away from Philadelphia. Gosh, it's been great. If you are in a blue city, and you are a Liberty lover, please do yourself a favor. 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Brad Leo Lyon was born in Flint, Michigan to Leo and JoAnn Lyon. A four sport varsity athlete in high school, Lyon was able to secure an athletic scholarship where he played two sports and studied law. Neither aspect would have led one to predict a career in film as his post graduate plans was to enter the world of sports and entertainment representation with a possible foray into politics.

Continuing that original narrative, he spent nearly a decade as the owner and director of operations for a Minor League sports team, the Genesee County Patriots, which wound up a family business with both his parents working beside him. During this time he also became a published author and started an event production company that put on concerts, sporting events, and other forms of entertainment.

Meanwhile, he continued his love for sports professionally, "failing often" in his own words, as he attempted to play football for a living. His football career highlights included 4 NAFL All Star selections and a 2005 All American selection by the MLFN. However, A few games played inside the now demolished Ivor Wynne stadium of the CFL's Hamilton Tigercats and the occasional stint in arena football is about all he could muster before eventually retiring. He also obtained world medals in wrestling at the Ironman and AAU world championships as well as a brief fling with mixed martial arts that culminated with headlining the main event of Champions of Cage Fighters.

It was sports that led to the cross over. An opportunity to sports coordinate football scenes for veteran film producer Michael Mendelsohn, known for having financed over 2 billion dollars worth of movies led to a new chapter in his life. His work on All's Faire In Love, starring Christina Ricci, Matthew Lillard, Ann-Margret, Cedric the Entertainer, Bill Engvall, Martin Klebba among others steamrolled into producing and starring in Minor League opposite Robert Miano, Dustin Diamond, and Bone Crusher.

Today, Brad Leo Lyon is a credited producer on over 30 feature films and TV series. He has also directed more than a dozen movies while appearing in many more. Visit IMDB's page on him (Brad Leo Lyon on IMDB) for a complete break down as well as a short filmography below.