Listen as we're joined by Captain Bob "Shoebob" Carey, US Navy (Ret), of Ready for Ron to discuss why he feels Governor DeSantis is the best candidate for President.
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Listen as we're joined by Captain Bob "Shoebob" Carey, US Navy (Ret), of Ready for Ron to discuss why he feels Governor DeSantis is the best candidate for President. We also discuss how Governor DeSantis has the opportunity to be a game-changer in the Republican Primary and why Florida is crucial for their success.
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Brian Nichols 0:13
So you're ready for Ron?
Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well, happy Friday there, folks, Brian Nichols, you're on The Brian Nichols Show. And thank you for joining us on a horse that are fun filled episode. I am as always your humble host joining us live more Stratus ip Studios here in lovely Eastern Indiana. Don't let cyber attacks or outdated Business Technology put your company at risk. Learn more at the Brian Nichols show.com forward slash Stratus ip. All right. We tease it there. Bob. You're ready for Ron, I think you are because you're joining us today leading that the fight that is to get Ron DeSantis as the GOP front runner for 2024. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Bob Kerry. Thanks for joining us.
Captain Bob Carey 1:12
Thank you very much. Hey, it seems to me that Governor DeSantis is already the front runner. Oh polls a segment of the show that
Brian Nichols 1:21
it's interesting, right? Because so let's rewind, you go back two months, I think or so ago, we are going into Election Day, right? I guess it's a month ago. Wow. It was forever ago. No Election Day was just around the corner, it feels like and we had the original polls. That was right. When Trump had announced that it looked like he was going to be the front runner Trump was going to be that guy. But behind the scenes, I think a lot of folks, candidly had been a little tired of Trump. And Ron DeSantis, especially during an era of COVID has presented himself as a true viable option for the GOP. Now even here in the program. We've had many a conversation with folks from all over the different ways of how should the GOP approach this shouldn't be Donald Trump? Should it be Ron DeSantis? Should it be someone else? Should it be a Unity Party? I think there is a lot of different conversations happening. But at the end of the day, I think it's good that we're seeing some some competition in the GOP primary, but you're leading the charge for Ron DeSantis, specifically, Bob, and you're doing so through the lens of a veteran. So if you would start out, introduce yourself here to The Brian Nichols Show audience and why you as a veteran are leading the charge and you are ready for Ron. Well,
Captain Bob Carey 2:25
thank you very much. And thanks for having me on the show as well. So yeah, I'm retired Navy, I did 32 years in the Navy, 10 years active and 22 in the reserves, was mobilized four times post 911. And so you know, I retired in 2015. And from the reserves, and I loved every moment, well, not every moment of my service, but I love most of my moments in my service. And, and so I'm helping the ready for run campaign, and I'm leading the veterans ready to run regimen. And we're looking to recruit veterans who feel the same way who want to help Ron DeSantis become the next president United States, and who want to make sure that what veterans care about is is dealt with, you know, one of the things that my background in 2014 and 2016 elections, I was actually the military and veterans engagement director for the for the Republican National Committee. And we put together a nationwide program of veterans out in the field, recruiting people to, to become working with the Republican National Committee and with the Republican candidates. And we had, we had about 50 full time veterans working on the various staffs. And we had about 1000 committed volunteers and about 10,000 overall veteran volunteers. And you know what it works. When you get on the ground, when you make phone calls, when you knock doors. When you go to Blue Angels, air shows, man, if I saw one more Blue Angels, air shows I was gonna be able to jump into the plane myself and fly it. But you know what, that's where you meet veterans. That's where you meet voters. And we want to veteran vote by 27 points in 2020, the most ever, plus we got about 2.8 million additional veterans to the polls in 2016. We won a veteran vote by about 20 in 2016, by by 27 points. And we got about 2.8 million additional veteran voters to the polls in 2016 Compared to 2012. And that's because we're on the ground. You know, people think that the veteran vote is in the bag for the Republican Party. And it's not, you know, in 2020, the Republicans only won the veteran vote by about seven points. And you can't take it you can't take it for you can't take it for granted. And so that's what we're doing. We're recruiting veterans, we're going to their conventions. We're going to where the veterans are, we're giving them training or telling them how to do this sort of stuff. And we're getting them in All right, hey, we had veterans out at polling places in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, Texas, Michigan, and Nevada on the Election Day of 2020 to two years prior, and they weren't there to say, hey, you know, vote for this or that candidate. They're saying, please sign this petition to convince Ron DeSantis to run for governor or run for president in 2020 for two years prior. That's how that's how excited people are about a Ron DeSantis candidacy. And I think we can I think we can continue that through the ready for an initiative and so I'm really excited to be working on this.
Brian Nichols 5:40
Yeah, and there's a video I want to share here. This is from your website. Let's take a listen to this really quick and install a 32nd video starting things off with our former president, Ronald Reagan. Take a listen.
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Brian Nichols 6:19
So when when we're talking politics, and you look at someone like Ron DeSantis, I've been much more on board with Ron DeSantis as a potential candidate. Now I'm coming more from I'm in, like the Rand Paul Thomas Massie camp here from a political lens. But Ron DeSantis really has appealed to me because especially in an era of COVID, he has been, I would say, almost perfect. There were some issues there when he first started off in COVID. But from then he pretty much was the best governor to look to look to in America in terms of how he handled COVID Because he followed the science. And now he's going through, he's actually leading forward and trying to uncover what happened here as we're going through not just the via the vaccines and the rollout there, but just the narrative that was pushed down from the government and the different pharmaceutical companies seemingly working hand in hand in many instances. So it's, it's, I guess it's nice to see someone like Ron DeSantis, carry the mantle of the person who fights and that's what Trump had right in 2016. But Ron DeSantis is actually fighting back from like, the policy and the system itself versus I think Trump was more so bull in china shop is what it came across. So I'm curious, what are your perspective as I guess, as you're looking at Ron DeSantis, do you see him more in the lens of I guess that person who is actually making change happen? Or is there other reasons that you're looking to add Ron DeSantis, I guess on your end,
Captain Bob Carey 7:45
oh, the man gets stuff done. I mean, I don't know I don't think the Army Corps of Engineers or a military engineering unit could have put together that bridge of Sanibel Island as quick as of the state of Florida did. I mean, that was remarkable. And, and that's it, that should not be underestimated. The man knows how to work it. He knows how to how to exercise the levers of power in government to get it done. And you know, and I think that's what we saw in the Florida voters in the 2022 election, you know, they always want to recount in the 2018 election when he went when he went to the governor's mansion. And, you know, he went by, I don't know, it's something like less than 50,000 votes, less than one percentage point. This time, he won by almost 20 percentage points. That's not more snowbirds moving from Michigan down to Florida. That's people that voted against Ron DeSantis in 2018, saying, You know what, this guy gets it done. He needs another chance and voting for him in 2020. And that's important, too, to be able to, you know, pull people that would otherwise have voted against you to now vote for you. That's important. And that's and that's big. And, and I think that's an important element of why I'm so strong about Ron DeSantis. But then, you know, look, his record and it as governor, his record as a representative, he understood what needed to be done for veterans. He did it for veterans, he didn't back down, and he kept at it. And I appreciate that too. But the guy you know, the guy is smart. The guy knows the guy knows how to get it done. The guy knows how to stick to his stick to his principles. And at the same time, you know, be relatively nice, happy people like people like happy warriors.
Brian Nichols 9:40
Oh, it's so true. Oh, and so I am much more in the Dale Carnegie kind of approached you How to Win Friends and Influence People. And it is to be that happy warrior. Right? There's it's so easy to be the person going out and criticizing and complaining and pointing out the thing and saying that's wrong. That's bad. But it's a different thing to be the happy warrior and then leading forward with real tangible solutions that not just sound good, but actually are good. And I think when you look at Ron DeSantis, specifically with Florida over the past few years with COVID, that is exactly why so many people are gravitating towards him, both literally and figuratively, because you saw Florida has become a bastion of republicanism because over the past two years, a lot of folks wanted to get away from these very hyper blue areas. Yours Truly included. Now, granted, I didn't move to Florida, I moved out to Indiana, but I moved away from a Blue City, move away from a blue state, because I saw how bad things were getting. And you look at someone like Ron DeSantis people gravitated towards Florida gravitated towards him, not just because they think like his ideas sound great, but because he was showing that the ideas work, he was making Florida, an example he was showing that the idea is when they're putting the action actually will be successful. So I guess I say all that to then say, What the heck are we doing with Donald Trump still? How can the GOP rein in their focus if they really want to have some electoral success in 2024? I mean, I think it's almost apparent at this point has to be someone other than Donald Trump, yet Trump, his ego maybe has gotten in the way to not let him step out. What is it with Trump there, Bob? You know, I
Captain Bob Carey 11:25
don't think that's really the important issue here. This is why we have primaries. iron sharpens iron, steel is forged in fire. We had a very competitive primary in 2016, the Republican Party did. Donald Trump wasn't named a presumptive candidate until mid May of 2016, a month and a half before the Republican convention. So and he won the Democratic primary and 2020 was very competitive. Then Senator Harris was eviscerating then Vice President Biden on the campaign trail, and then the debates. And now she's his vice president. And, you know, let the voters decide that we are, you know, sovereignty in our country lies at the people and through the people to the states and then to the federal government. And that's why we have primaries. That's why we that that's why things flow up to the federal government, not flow down, or at least that's constitutionally how it's supposed to work. And, and so let the voters decide, you know, let's have that debate.
Brian Nichols 12:41
So, let's have a debate. Not having the debate now. But I guess let's look at the debate. Let's look to 2024. Because it is right around the corner, believe it or not, we're in December already. Oh, my gosh.
Captain Bob Carey 12:52
I mean, depending on how things go with the primary schedule, we will have a year from now will likely be something in Iowa, which is why Yeah.
Brian Nichols 13:03
And I mean, I'm, I'm a sales guy by trade, right. I'm wrapping up my calls here this week and thinking like, Okay, we got a couple a couple of weeks left, right. And then you look, you're like, Oh, wow. Yeah. 2023 is literally in two weeks. And I guess now you're looking ahead to 2023. And beyond that means beyond Trump and beyond DeSantis there likely gonna be more GOP folks popping into the primary. And I guess let's look at because you brought this up a couple of times. And I want to turn back towards this, the idea of and we say this all the time to show meeting people where they're at on the issues they care about you were bringing up veterans a lot, which I really appreciate, because we've had many a time that's you on the show, and you hear so often that veteran issues are not being addressed. They're being ignored, not discussed, and specifically in the world of addressing mental health issues. And just that that's been something we've been really trying to bring up here in the show as solutions. So I look to I guess what you guys are bringing to the table for ready to run. And I see there is that approach for veterans as well, but veterans supporting Rhonda Santas. And you mentioned a lot of support Ron DeSantis has done for veterans but I guess when you're looking at the those specific issues help us right in the liberty movement. This is beyond Ron DeSantis that let's look at the issues that we're talking about here. What are you seeing are the main things that veterans are bringing to the table saying we need help here so we can have a better job at communicating what we can bring to the table from solutions? Well, a
Captain Bob Carey 14:25
big part of the thing is, is transition you know you're gonna leave military service sooner or later, either on your feet or feet for your you know, being carried out the door feet first. And and you're going to make a transition. And you know, right now that transition can be tough. You are leaving an organization that is you know, far more like a family that it is like a like a work situation where you are, you know, you you share your sweat, you share your food, you share your blood with these guys and gals and And you're probably never gonna have a close relationship with the guys I fought with in Desert Storm in 1991, I still get together with I was with him at the Army Navy game last week, you know, these are relationships that I will never forget and will always be in my life. And it's difficult to replicate that in the in the civilian sector. And, and there's a lot of problems there, one of the and so one of the, you know, big reasons for the veteran mental health issues and some of the, in the veteran suicide issue is the lack of connectivity, you know, these veterans are not able to, you know, get together with the people that in the way that they want. And that's one of the things that Governor DeSantis really worked on, when he has put is recognized some of the shortfalls in what the VA does. And he has put together state programs to make it easier to buy a home, to make it easier to get a job to make it easier to become a citizen of Florida. And then and there's a reason that, you know, almost a third of all military personnel declare Florida as their state of residence, because we're a don't got no income tax. And when you're a military retiree, and you're trying to figure out how you're going to make your dollar go further, you know, not having to pay the state income tax on your military retirement is a big deal. And he's kept that he's kept that going as well. So, you know, and look, I mean, a large part of the reason that we did as well as we did in 2016, was because, you know, the party and the candidate made veterans issues front and center. And I believe that Governor DeSantis is doing the same, and will continue to do the same if he runs for president. And so I you know, that's, that's exciting to me, as well, in order to be able to get out that veteran vote.
Brian Nichols 16:55
Alrighty, so we are getting towards the tail end of the episode, which means it's the part of the show where we get to start talking about our final thoughts. And to start doing that I'll kick things off here, Bob, I think it is so important for us to be having this conversation when we're talking about veteran issues, and how often we and I say this as society we we don't talk about, excuse me, the veteran issues that we need to talk about. And it ends up I think, partly being because it's not a sexy political issue. It's not the leading thing. It's not, you know, the headline story, we have to be able to bring this as a part of the conversation. And it starts with us actually reframing the narratives. When I was on Tim Poole, back at the beginning of the year, one of the things I brought up many times was the idea. And actually, it's funny enough, we were talking about Ron DeSantis, when it was the so called Don't say gay bill. And what he did so well, was diffusing that narrative. Instead of responding to narratives, resetting narratives. Well, the same thing is true when it comes to us talking about policy and solutions to issues but also how we can address the main problems that are out there. So yes, it is important for us to continue having these conversations. That's my final thoughts for today. Bob, what do you have for us? Well, look,
Captain Bob Carey 18:10
you can't you can't run a campaign without people and money. So I'm going to ask your viewers to be both. First, go to Ready for run.com. Ready? It's www that ready for ron.com/vets? And sign up? Tell us you're a veteran, tell us you want to help. We'll train you. We'll put you to work. We'll give you an opportunity. You. You do really well. Hell, we may even start paying you. But don't tell. Don't tell my boss I said that. Second, we need to pay our people somehow. And in political campaigns that comes from donations. Yep. So you can go to Ready for ron.com as well. And you can make a donation. It doesn't need to be much. You know, $1 is $1 $20 is $20 Take the year that you entered service 1982 Give us $19.82 Every month until the election, if 100 of your people do that, I've now just paid for a veteran staffer in the state of Iowa to work the caucus. So if you have 100 viewers out there that want to give us $19.82 A month I'll put that to work getting veterans out to vote for Ron DeSantis
Brian Nichols 19:34
well there you go. There's a call to action if I ever heard one and if you are one of yes I know there's literally 10s of 1000s of you out there listening to the show both your honor video as well as our audio version of the podcast and I know a big portion of you guys are in the the GOP camp so if this is peeking your interest you are in fact ready for Ron. Well here we'll make it really easy for you all call to actions will be over in the show notes. So if you're on the podcast version of the show, which I know like now 95% of you are all you do is go to your podcast catcher, click the artwork or just go to your, your favorite browser Chrome, Firefox. I don't know why even specify that but go to the Brian Nichols show.com. And that's where you can find today's episode, you can find all 645 other episodes plus you can find the transcripts from today's episode, all the links plus you can find all social media so if you want go ahead and follow the conversations, continue the conversations that will be there as well. And oh, by the way, folks for the video version of the show, which we're still growing a lot over on our video versions over on YouTube, Rumble and on Odyssey finance at B Nichols liberty and when you're over there just do me a favor hit the little subscribe button and notification bell so you don't miss a single time we go live and oh by the way, yesterday I had a it was a one on one with a human media audience. Now we were talking about how the power of positive selling can actually help you instead of criticizing Yes, love more how it will help you sell more, believe it or not. Go ahead check out that episode. I will include that right here below if you're joining us on YouTube. Otherwise, again, the Brian Nichols show.com for all 645 other episodes. One last thing. Bob Are you feel the office?
Captain Bob Carey 21:13
I watch it. Yeah, I watch it.
Brian Nichols 21:17
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Captain Bob Carey 21:58
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Bob “Shoebob” Carey, a retired Navy Captain with 29 years of combined active duty and reserve service as a Surface Warfare and Naval Flight officer in Desert Storm and four activations after 9/11. “Shoebob” joined the Republican National Committee in 2014 to run their Military & Veterans Engagement program, known as GOPVets. As Director, Shoebob expanded the program, eventually coordinating with the “Veterans for Trump” effort, to a staff of more than 50 full time veteran and military spouse staffers and 27,000 veteran volunteers.
Prior to his stint with GOPVets, Shoebob was a Senate staffer, Senior Policy Advisor to the Secretary of Energy, Director of DoD’s Federal Voting Assistance Program, dual qualified Surface Warfare Officer and Naval Flight Officer (A-6E “Intruder”), and selected seven times for Navy Reserve command.