The Intersection of Fitness, Politics, and the COVID-19 Pandemic
On this episode of The Brian Nichols Show, we delve into the government's response to COVID-19 and how it relates to our overall health and wellness. Brian Nichols and guest, Kaleena George, share their belief that the government's response was misguided and that there may have been a different approach. They also discuss the Kaleena's background in the fitness industry and her experience working in a hospital during the pandemic.
The conversation also touches on the vaccine, the force and coercion used to get people to take it, and the issue of obesity in the US. Kaleena highlights the importance of being a smart consumer and knowing where our food comes from, and Brian shares a graphic that shows the tripling of obesity rates in the US from 1987 to 2021.
The episode discusses possible reasons for this increase, such as Big Pharma, big food, and the loss of nutritional value in food.
Tune in to understand the intersection of fitness and politics and how it impacts our health and wellness!
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Brian Nichols 0:25
How should we have fought COVID? From the beginning? Yeah, let's talk about that. Instead of focusing on winning arguments, we're teaching the basic fundamentals of sales and marketing and how we can use them to win in the world of politics, teaching you how to meet people where they're at on the issues they care about. Welcome to The Brian Nichols Show. Well, happy Monday there, folks, Brian Nichols, here on The Brian Nichols Show. And thank you for joining us on a horse. Another fun to build episode. I am joining us always mark Stratus ip Studios here in lovely Eastern Indiana. Let's cyber attacks are outdated Business Technology, put your company at risk. Learn more at Brian Nichols show.com, forward slash Stratus. ip? Well, let's talk about how we should have dealt with COVID from the beginning. Now if you joined us here on the program way back in Yes, March April, May of 2020. Despite what was the common narrative, which was being promoted by fear, to stay home, stay safe and basically isolate to the end of time? We were saying maybe there's a different approach. Maybe we shouldn't be taking this more from a fact, you know, different factors that are out there, namely age high risk, and then also, what's the best way to deal with COVID? Who are the folks that are actually going to be at risk? And is there a way to address those factors? Like maybe they're overweight, to lose some weight? Maybe go outside? Get some sunshine? But no, we were considered to be conspiracy theorists. We were not following the science. We were not trusting the experts. Well, let's go ahead and have a fitness expert on the show today, who maybe he's going to talk a little bit about what actually works here over the past few years. Kalina George joining us here on the show, Kalina. Thanks for joining The Brian Nichols Show.
Kaleena George 2:04
Hey, thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. Thank you
Brian Nichols 2:07
for joining us. And let's kind of kick things off here. Because you you've really built up a name here in the greater liberty movement over the past few years, really, in the world of fitness as well, which I doubly appreciate myself being a fitness fanatic, my my used to weigh 385 pounds. So I love going to the gym every morning getting my lift in. But I think you know, when you're talking about the bridging of the fitness world and the world of politics, it really happened over the past few years, because a lot of folks in the fitness world who were looking at what was the reaction from the government was being done. We're like, this is insane. This is not how we approach this. And you specifically have had some experience and have really built up a nicer audience. They're talking about not just the insanity from the government response, but also man, the vaccine, right, which we will talk about today, a lot of the force and the coercion that was pushed from top down to get folks to take this, this Vax. But before we get there, let's go ahead and let you introduce yourself to The Brian Nichols Show audience and your world in this this fitness world that you find yourself in.
Kaleena George 3:09
Awesome. Yeah, so actually, although fitness has always been a part of my life since I was 17 years old, so almost 20 years, like coming on 20 years. Actually, during the beginning of the pandemic, I didn't work in fitness, I actually worked in the hospital, I was a physician assistant, I practice medicine for six years, I worked in the ICU. And I did practice all the way through April of 2021. So I think that I have a really unique perspective on basically like, the fitness side, as well as the health side, the hospital side, everything like that. So I definitely some things that I noticed right away, especially from working in the hospital, and just from my experience in medicine was we had kind of been through like a pandemic scare before that. I don't know. And I haven't I don't think I've mentioned this on a podcast before but a lot of people who did not work in medicine around like, I think 2013 1415 Maybe might not remember this but there was a big like Ebola scare around that time. We saw some similar kind of, you know, measures with lots of questionnaires wanting to kind of like isolate people who had maybe been to different parts of the world and approaching it like that. So I remembered I remember like the beginning of the pandemic in 2020 thinking back to that experience and thinking this is probably nothing there overblowing it I definitely didn't think that they will go as drastic as they ended up going at that time. But I already like I definitely had like my flags going off right away. Now I thought it would just kind of you know, come and go just like the Ebola scares that they have. But they really obviously dove right into this one and um You all know the story there. But I agree with you that there was no. When you talk about like the different demographics, because you mentioned that there was definitely no differentiation between like a high risk person and a low risk person. And how do we approach this, it was definitely very draconian, like one size fits all, like public health approach, which is never a good thing. And we can talk about this later. But that starts right from the moment you're born. Basically, here in the United States with the childhood schedule, same thing, there's no this child's high risk, because they're going to maybe go to a lot of schooling and everything early on, maybe this was low risk, based on where they live, the class sizes, they're gonna attend different things like that. It's all one size fits all, when it comes to public health, everyone needs all these shots, or everyone needs to be locked in their house. So I think when you approach things from that standpoint, you've automatically lost credibility in my mind. So
Brian Nichols 5:57
So I want to reverse let's go way back, right. I'm not sure. Are you super familiar with the way we've gotten to where we are in modern medicine?
Kaleena George 6:08
Like depends on what you're talking about with Rockefeller.
Brian Nichols 6:10
So from the understanding that I've in my reading is that Rockefeller really wanted to help isolate the the what we consider now like Big Pharma, right, and this more top down approach to medicine versus what was at that time, more of your traditional medicine, which was the more holistic approach to medicine, which was a lot of what our grandparents right where I grew up, or our great grandparents grew up as their medicines. And it's funny, I still think back to my great grandma, I grew up in the Great Depression and hearing the stories that she would share about things that was considered medicine or remedies. And that's like, oh, okay, Grandma, that's weird. Like, you know, it was like, put this under your toe, and it will keep it there for five days wrapped up in duct tape. And it's like, what, okay, but that was medicine. And there behind it. It was, it was completely like voodoo in the public discourse. And it was done from the, quote, expert class, we see this again, right? Where it was focused to take this holistic approach to medicine, and to get rid of it from the traditional discourse and to make it like it's quack science. Right. And, and that has led to where we are today, where you have really the separation of Big Pharma and the prescription drug world that we have as the solution to the medical issues, which are they solutions, we can talk about that, but then the other side, right, and it's more of how do we address the health problems instead of simply just throwing medicines that's at it much your approach? How do we go the fitness route? How do we live a healthier lifestyle? And how do we do that not just when we're in the gym, but what we're putting in our body, right, the food we eat, the environment that we put ourselves, and there's all these different factors that that all add up. And I guess, it really speaks to how it's, it's been such an uphill battle night, I think, you know, back when I was 335 pounds, it was, it was weird for me, because like, the only reason I wanted to lose weight was because I was told to by a doctor, and I saw like I needed to, but beyond that, like, I didn't really see the societal problem that was happening around me because everybody else was getting heavy, too. Right? And, and then all sudden, you know, now that I've lost weight, and I go to the gym, and I kind of like drive down the street and just look at where we are as a society. It's scary. Like our our, I just shared this over on Twitter, I gotta look this up. I'll let you go ahead. As I turn this over to you, I'll pull up the graphic, but I think it was like our weights has like tripled overnight in a generation. Here. You You take over really quick, I'm gonna pull that graphic up, hold tight. One sec.
Kaleena George 8:49
Okay, so I'm kind of backing up on that, that that was an interesting point. I think when it comes to like, the weight gain that we've seen as a society, we live in a society of abundance, and it's been this way for decades. But also, simultaneously, the food quality has really started to go down, especially since probably I would say like the 1980s. You know, we started and I'm not saying that's when we got microwaves. But we started getting microwaves. Everything was microwavable, everything was easy. Restaurant portions increased, processed foods increased, the ingredients got worse. And at this point, you know, we basically live in so much abundance, that if you don't put controls on yourself, you will just naturally gain weight. And so I think that's kind of where we're at as a society, no matter you know, how much money you have and stuff. It's not like we're facing starvation anymore in our country like, and I'm sure there are areas where that that is a factor and I'm not
Brian Nichols 9:49
just spoke tonight, the 1980s right I have here for the folks who are on the podcast version of the show, which I know like 90 some odd percent of you are, go to the YouTube go to the rumble. Go to the Odyssey check So because this graphic is just insane, from 1987 to 2021, our obesity rates have tripled, tripled in one generation tripled. And I say that as someone who I was morbidly obese, like, yeah, it's a big problem. I mean, I look at my home state of New York and New York. I mean, you think used to be like the healthiest state now 25% of the state is considered obese. It's mind blowing.
Kaleena George 10:33
Yeah. And I think sorry, that's my puppy. He's in the other room. So what's interesting to me is I see on that in the very first picture, Louisiana, which is actually the state that I've lived in here for eight years, it's completely white. So I'm assuming that that may have one of the lowest levels of obesity, even though I don't see it on. You know, I don't see that on their chart here. But now, we are obviously at the highest level of obesity. So what happened there? Because home cooking and things like that have always been a part of Louisiana culture. But what changed? Was it the food quality? Was it portion size? Is it alcohol? Is it? You know, maybe we were working a lot more physical labor back then. I mean, I think that there's probably a lot of different factors in play. But that's interesting. I didn't realize in 1987, and correct me if I'm wrong, correct me if they just maybe didn't have data. And that's why it's white. But it looks like we didn't really have a problem. Now we have a huge problem here. And this
Brian Nichols 11:30
huge problem, huge problems. And this actually was shared by Luke radowsky. Over on his Twitter when there's a ROB originally found this. And his questions like, Well, what happened here? Right. And that's the big question is a little What did happen here. And there are so many factors that go into this, whether it's we talk about Big Pharma tossing medications at our various ailments and saying this is your solution, good luck, or it's it's big food, right? Going out and subsidizing all these terrible, terrible things that we're ingesting into our bodies, on the daily there, geez, look at the foods from just 20 years ago, to where they are today. They're almost different foods. And that speaks to I think, also, what's happening is that the food that we're eating, it's not really food anymore, it's losing its nutritional value. And that's scary, right? Because you can eat what you think is a healthy ish diet and still struggle in the United States. But it's because there are so many hidden things that people just don't pay attention to. And I guess, that speaks to why it is so important for us to be like, actually, you know, smart consumers, I guess, like to go out, read the labels take the time to know, where's your food coming from, I moved to a small rural area in eastern Indiana, and I was like, You know what, I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna serve using like a local butcher, because I don't want to be in a situation. Oh, we'll get you back in a sec. I don't want to be a situation where they are.
Kaleena George 13:03
Where all the vote or something? I don't know why phone calls are disrupting it.
Brian Nichols 13:07
Oh, no, you're good. No, but I was saying, I don't wanna be in a situation where like, you know, I'm like, it was in Philadelphia, I'm going to a supermarket. And I have no idea where this food is coming. Like, where's the cow that this was from, like, I can go to the butcher, and know like this, this cow was from down the road, you know, I mean, that right there, knowing where your food comes from, and having more of a relationship with that. But also, then the other part of it and this is something that you you really focus on is living the healthy lifestyle by getting active going out, testing your limits, like pushing yourself beyond where you think you can go to prepare yourself for not just today, but for tomorrow, because God only knows what the future is going to bring.
Kaleena George 14:03
Yeah, so actually, I had done a poll like a couple of days ago, because I talked about myself and my son and my son, he does have a he's pretty picky with his diet. But I said, My son and I both basically eat like non stop, okay, like, we eat like, there's no tomorrow, both of us. But both of us have like an ideal BMI. He's five years old. But why is that? You know, I asked the question, what do you think? What foods do you think that we avoid? You know, and actually, it turned out once people started answering, I was like, there's probably like three things, but the one major one that I was thinking of, a lot of people did get, and that was sugar. Like, basically, I think a huge problem that we have is sugar, high fructose corn syrup, obviously, there's all sorts of other awful ingredients like you know, food dyes, artificial, you know, flavorings, different things like that, you know, like you talked about with the meat, there could be hormones, antibiotics, all those things, but I really think that the sugar is definitely sugar is one of the biggest issues. Obviously our dairy we actually do avoid dairy too. So that was like a secondary answer, but it's not like a main one. And things like alcohol to like people, you know, a lot of people say like, my metabolism got so much worse, you know, as I got a little bit older Well, what you know, as I got on my teams or something, well, what happened when you got off your teams you started also drinking alcohol, what happened when you showed up at college, you started drinking alcohol. So that's something that I really work on with my clients is I try to explain to them like, you probably are not going to get the results that you want, nearly as fast or efficiently if you're still drinking alcohol. So that's a huge theme to me, the alcohol, sugar for sure. I don't prescribe though, just to the idea that we should do like a low fat diet, low carb diet, I eat carbohydrates, they just need to be quality, high carbohydrates. And I believe in a, you know, a very balanced diet, that that's the healthiest thing because anything that you avoid, you know, like if I try to try to like biohack, I'm not into that, you know, if I say like, Imma go ketosis, well, you gotta stay in ketosis. The second that, you know, there's not not that food around, you have to have carbs and stuff, then you run the risk of your body doesn't know how to handle it. And now you're in a situation where it doesn't know what to do with storing fat, doing things like that messing up your metabolism. So I don't believe in doing anything like drastic or extreme. That's, you know, my, what I tell my clients, that's what I tell myself. And I think that it works very well. Like I had told everybody, for the last two weeks, I've been moving, and I hadn't worked out, like I've trained my clients, and I've had to leave the gym. You know, there's no shame in that after 17 years of being in the gym, this happens. Sometimes this is life, it doesn't mean I don't get right back on the wagon. But also, you have to look at the fact that I don't think that that's going to make me gain weight. And it certainly did, what does it do is gonna affect my muscles, you know, they're going to like atrophy a little bit, I'm going to lose some strength and might, you know, lose a little bit of definition. But I'm not going to just gain weight, because I didn't work out for two weeks like that would show that I have a metabolic problem. If that happened, you know, or that I'm deaf, I'm overtraining to try to stay in a deficit. That's not what you want. You want to have a healthy metabolism, you want to have healthy hormone profile, your body like working out lifting weights, stuff like that should be adding, you know, adding to you not like trying to keep you where you're at. If you if you think that you have to get on and do a bunch of cardio to like lose weight or maintain your body fat, like you're already in a bad position. So
Brian Nichols 17:44
yep. And I was looking really quick, the obesity rate increase during COVID. And the reason I wanted to look that up, because this goes back to when we first started out our conversation today. You know, what was the best way to actually deal with COVID and we saw the stay home save lives, namely your life, right? And we see Yeah, CDC recognition, adult obesity is an epidemic has increased exponentially since the pandemic started, especially amongst children ages two to 19. How about that? So I was just reading that over the CDC here on the Google Google device. But anyways, that goes back to well, what should we have done right? Instead of locking folks down for God only knows how long Yeah, what would you have said, you know, all sudden cleaning, you're in charge of the CDC? No, you're rather you're right next to Trump, your your, your your Anthony Fauci instead your what's your recommendation?
Kaleena George 18:41
Okay, so first of all, I want to know, what does the CDC do they say what the causes are they taking some ownership there are they're just like doing the thing that they always do, which is like, we don't know why, like this happened, but it did you know, or it was unforeseeable circumstances. Um, the truth is, is that they closed down gyms, they even went so far as to close down like public areas like parks, playgrounds and things like that. They scared people like to, you know, and like to the fact that if they're near other people, they're gonna get sick, you know, die, or have someone in their family catch the illness die, like so much stress around the situation that people just avoided going public places, not everyone. So right now, I just moved to the country I have, you know, like over an acre of land, it wouldn't really matter to me, if they close down everything right now because I go outside, go for a little run in a circle. You know, it's my property, I can get a couple of things. I could get some rocks and lift them whatever, you know, push ups, pull ups, whatever. But that's not everyone's case. A lot of people are packed in little apartments and stuff like that, especially if you think about cities, New York, or just even even smaller cities, people lived in apartments and things where they didn't have less space. They're closing those gym, gyms down, you know, they're doing things like taping off You know, walkways and recreational areas. That was awful for those people, that was absolutely the wrong thing to do. And yes, it definitely put them into service. Obesity, as we know, was linked to a worse outcome with COVID. And it's linked to worse outcomes just in general with your health. So I think they absolutely mismanage that. They definitely, first of all, I, you know, I'm very libertarian, I do not think that they should have locked down anything, they could have put out some recommendations for older people of how we can protect them. But especially for younger people, I don't think you know, like making people mask when they're around other people. Like that was ridiculous. The I even saw that they went so far as to like, have children wear masks during PE, which was totally dangerous, and just inappropriate it to me. And there been class, can you believe that? I would be in class. Yeah. They had to have like a hole in there to be able to do it. Yeah, it's absurd. And I think they totally mismanaged that they should have been talking to people about if they really cared if this wasn't just about selling a pharmaceutical products, and taking authoritarian control, then they would have told you go outside, get a walk, you need more Vitamin D, Vitamin D is going to actually protect you, you know, they would have told you every pound you can lose is going to increase your chance of living, if you catch if and when you catch the virus, because as we know, you know, everyone eventually was going to catch the virus at least once, if not two, three, sometimes three times for people now, despite having the vaccines. So if they were really for our health, they would have put out recommendations like that, you know, they would have talked to us about healthy eating different things like that, you know, they wouldn't have closed down the gym, they would have maybe closed down like, I don't know, the liquor store or something that every you know, it is what it is. And I don't think that they should have done that either. Because again, that's an authoritarian measure. But I'm just saying none of it makes sense from a health perspective.
Brian Nichols 21:59
A lot. It still doesn't make sense. It's, it's all insanity. And frankly, that's I have a good good friends there over at our sound mind Creative Group team that just is finishing up the new mini Docu series follow the science lockdowns go viral. So please, folks, go ahead. Give those guys some loves. Because they're doing some great stuff and telling the real story about what happened over the past three years, which also three years really, we're already at three years. Oh, my gosh, it's insane. It and I guess I hope we're at a point, you know, that's where I'm at. I'm like, I'm hoping we're at a point where this is kind of going to end. But to your point, we see this in so many different areas in life in government already taking the, you know, once they have this role that they think is now their responsibility, they're just going to expand upon it. So what can we do to prevent the next pandemic? You know, how can we lock down harder, right? So with that being said, unfortunately, looked at the clock already hard pressed for time, so cleaner, would that work? And folks, go ahead and follow you continue the conversation and want to learn more?
Kaleena George 23:01
Oh, yeah, definitely. So I'm on my main platform is Instagram. I've been on Instagram for about two years. I started on Instagram in, I think June of 2020. Run over there and talk a lot about health freedom. Vaccines I talk about, I mean, although I'm vague about it, because it's Instagram, y'all know, and you don't want to get censored and lose your platform. But I do a lot of stuff over there talking about libertarianism talk about health and fitness also. So that's that liberty, check. All one word on Instagram. I'm also now on Twitter. And on Twitter, the it was too long. So it's t H t liberty, check on Twitter. And there I have a lot more. It's mostly libertarian content. But I do post some workout videos, you post some stuff about food eating things like that just encouragement about lifestyle. And then so far, that's about it. I'm on rumble also, but I haven't been posting a lot of videos there. I'll probably start up again. And that is, you know, my channel over there is called that Liberty check. And soon I will probably be starting a YouTube but I do not have it yet. And I also have Facebook again that Liberty check. It's all the same.
Brian Nichols 24:11
Perfect, it will include all those links in the show notes of folks go if you're on the podcast version of the show, click the artwork in your podcast catcher, it'll bring you right over to the Brian Nichols show.com where you can find yes all those links, plus the entire transcript from today's episode and yes, the video version. So you can see the handy dandy graph that we were showing there. I'll include that in the show notes to make it easy for you. Why not? But yes, please go over to the video version of the show, hit that subscribe button and little notification bell so you don't miss a single time. We go live from my final thoughts for today. You want to go ahead and make some changes in your life. You'll make some changes elsewhere as well beyond your life. And I think that's the thing we should focus on first and so many folks want to change the world without realizing that to change themselves first. So go focus on yourself live healthier, more healthy life. If you want to learn more about that Please reach out to Kalina. That's my final thoughts cleaner. What do you have for us for your final thoughts?
Kaleena George 25:05
Um, yeah, that's about it. I mean, basically, if you are thinking about starting to work out or eat healthy, like do not, don't say like, I'm gonna do it Monday, don't say I'm gonna do it on the New Year, don't say I'm really into it after this weekend, you just start right now, you know, and then you just take all those events as they come. Don't let yourself get derailed. I mean, obviously, sometimes we're going to always have like, you know, a holiday or something, it's not going to be perfect, but you just start right away and just make that commitment. So that's
Brian Nichols 25:33
Amen. truth, truth. All right. Well, that we have to run, folks, thank you for joining us. And by the way, we had some awesome episodes here this past week. If you missed them, don't worry, I'm gonna include the most recent episode over here you're joining us on YouTube and if you are here on YouTube, that means that over here, YouTube's gonna go ahead and suggest a I guess the video that they think is the best for you trust the algorithm gods they know what's best. Otherwise. That being said, Follow me on Twitter. At B Nichols Liberty can find me on Twitter and on Facebook until I'm banned Of course, and also if you do me a favor you welcome an audience insider dollar 99 A month you get some behind the scenes content plus Q and A's with yours truly, and you get access to all my free ebooks over on our Patreon 199 A month link there at the Brian Nichols show.com forward slash support and by the way you want go ahead and get some swag. We have some awesome stuff like we have our good ideas don't require force snapback, we have hoodies, we have t shirts. We have yard signs, backpacks and more, go to the Brian Nichols show.com forward slash shop and use code TBNS at checkout for 10% off. That's all we have for you. Brian Nichols signing off here on The Brian Nichols Show for Kalina George, we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you
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